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Episode #21

Navigating the Realities of Product Management This podcast episode dives into the complexities and challenges of product management, particularly in environments far removed from the idealized 'product-led' approach advocated by thought leaders like Marty Kagan. The episode discusses the controversy around current...

Navigating the Realities of Product Management

 

This podcast episode dives into the complexities and challenges of product management, particularly in environments far removed from the idealized 'product-led' approach advocated by thought leaders like Marty Kagan. The episode discusses the controversy around current product management practices, emphasizing the difficulties PMs encounter when trying to implement change within their organizations. Ben shares his perspective and experiences, outlining the challenges of transitioning a company from being output-oriented to outcome-oriented, highlighting the risks and personal consequences PMs face in such endeavors. The conversation also covers strategies for PMs in 'feature factory' settings and the importance of aligning job performance evaluations with the realities of the work environment. Through this discussion, the podcast sheds light on the contrasts between the aspirational aspects of product leadership and the on-the-ground realities for PMs, offering insights and advice for navigating these challenging terrains.

 

00:00 Welcome & Introduction to the Product Management Controversy

02:34 The Heart of the Controversy: Product-Led vs. Feature Factories

04:28 Ben's Perspective: The Realities of Implementing Change

05:27 The Reaction to Ben's Post and the Broader Implications

11:23 Navigating the Feature Factory: A Telehealth Case Study

14:03 Strategies for Product Managers in Challenging Environments

17:52 The Art of Influence and Navigating Corporate Dynamics

25:22 Reflecting on Agency and the Role of Product Managers

27:21 The Ephemeral Nature of CEO Priorities

27:58 The Discrepancy Between PMs and Executive Satisfaction

28:56 Outcome vs. Output: The PM Dilemma

30:28 Navigating the Feature Factory: A PM's Guide

31:24 Empowerment and Rewards: The Key to PM Success

35:25 The Reality of Product Management in Different Environments

40:34 Supra Insider: A Community for Product Leaders

41:06 Identifying the Right Company Culture for PMs

46:23 The Challenge of Changing Company Culture

47:39 Final Thoughts: Navigating Product Management

 

Ben's Bio: Ben Erez is an experienced product leader specializing in 0 to 1. He scaled startups, drove significant revenue at Facebook, and most recently led product and design at Continuum, a marketplace for fractional executive talent. He's currently advising and consulting early stage founders on product management.
Ben’s Podcast: Supra Insider - Link: https://open.spotify.com/show/6TMmn1S1ATCD4U4brZowMI

Episode #21

Navigating the Realities of Product Management This podcast episode dives into the complexities and challenges of product management, particularly in environments far removed from the idealized 'product-led' approach advocated by thought leaders like Marty Kagan. The episode discusses the controversy around current...

Navigating the Realities of Product Management

 

This podcast episode dives into the complexities and challenges of product management, particularly in environments far removed from the idealized 'product-led' approach advocated by thought leaders like Marty Kagan. The episode discusses the controversy around current product management practices, emphasizing the difficulties PMs encounter when trying to implement change within their organizations. Ben shares his perspective and experiences, outlining the challenges of transitioning a company from being output-oriented to outcome-oriented, highlighting the risks and personal consequences PMs face in such endeavors. The conversation also covers strategies for PMs in 'feature factory' settings and the importance of aligning job performance evaluations with the realities of the work environment. Through this discussion, the podcast sheds light on the contrasts between the aspirational aspects of product leadership and the on-the-ground realities for PMs, offering insights and advice for navigating these challenging terrains.

 

00:00 Welcome & Introduction to the Product Management Controversy

02:34 The Heart of the Controversy: Product-Led vs. Feature Factories

04:28 Ben's Perspective: The Realities of Implementing Change

05:27 The Reaction to Ben's Post and the Broader Implications

11:23 Navigating the Feature Factory: A Telehealth Case Study

14:03 Strategies for Product Managers in Challenging Environments

17:52 The Art of Influence and Navigating Corporate Dynamics

25:22 Reflecting on Agency and the Role of Product Managers

27:21 The Ephemeral Nature of CEO Priorities

27:58 The Discrepancy Between PMs and Executive Satisfaction

28:56 Outcome vs. Output: The PM Dilemma

30:28 Navigating the Feature Factory: A PM's Guide

31:24 Empowerment and Rewards: The Key to PM Success

35:25 The Reality of Product Management in Different Environments

40:34 Supra Insider: A Community for Product Leaders

41:06 Identifying the Right Company Culture for PMs

46:23 The Challenge of Changing Company Culture

47:39 Final Thoughts: Navigating Product Management

 

Ben's Bio: Ben Erez is an experienced product leader specializing in 0 to 1. He scaled startups, drove significant revenue at Facebook, and most recently led product and design at Continuum, a marketplace for fractional executive talent. He's currently advising and consulting early stage founders on product management.
Ben’s Podcast: Supra Insider - Link: https://open.spotify.com/show/6TMmn1S1ATCD4U4brZowMI

Episode #21

Navigating the Realities of Product Management This podcast episode dives into the complexities and challenges of product management, particularly in environments far removed from the idealized 'product-led' approach advocated by thought leaders like Marty Kagan. The episode discusses the controversy around current...

Navigating the Realities of Product Management

 

This podcast episode dives into the complexities and challenges of product management, particularly in environments far removed from the idealized 'product-led' approach advocated by thought leaders like Marty Kagan. The episode discusses the controversy around current product management practices, emphasizing the difficulties PMs encounter when trying to implement change within their organizations. Ben shares his perspective and experiences, outlining the challenges of transitioning a company from being output-oriented to outcome-oriented, highlighting the risks and personal consequences PMs face in such endeavors. The conversation also covers strategies for PMs in 'feature factory' settings and the importance of aligning job performance evaluations with the realities of the work environment. Through this discussion, the podcast sheds light on the contrasts between the aspirational aspects of product leadership and the on-the-ground realities for PMs, offering insights and advice for navigating these challenging terrains.

 

00:00 Welcome & Introduction to the Product Management Controversy

02:34 The Heart of the Controversy: Product-Led vs. Feature Factories

04:28 Ben's Perspective: The Realities of Implementing Change

05:27 The Reaction to Ben's Post and the Broader Implications

11:23 Navigating the Feature Factory: A Telehealth Case Study

14:03 Strategies for Product Managers in Challenging Environments

17:52 The Art of Influence and Navigating Corporate Dynamics

25:22 Reflecting on Agency and the Role of Product Managers

27:21 The Ephemeral Nature of CEO Priorities

27:58 The Discrepancy Between PMs and Executive Satisfaction

28:56 Outcome vs. Output: The PM Dilemma

30:28 Navigating the Feature Factory: A PM's Guide

31:24 Empowerment and Rewards: The Key to PM Success

35:25 The Reality of Product Management in Different Environments

40:34 Supra Insider: A Community for Product Leaders

41:06 Identifying the Right Company Culture for PMs

46:23 The Challenge of Changing Company Culture

47:39 Final Thoughts: Navigating Product Management

 

Ben's Bio: Ben Erez is an experienced product leader specializing in 0 to 1. He scaled startups, drove significant revenue at Facebook, and most recently led product and design at Continuum, a marketplace for fractional executive talent. He's currently advising and consulting early stage founders on product management.
Ben’s Podcast: Supra Insider - Link: https://open.spotify.com/show/6TMmn1S1ATCD4U4brZowMI

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